SC10 4x4 Thread
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Correct, the piston never does touch the bladder, but when the piston moves up into the body ?
The oil it displaces pushes against the bladder & that is where the extra pack comes from...![Wink](https://www.rctech.net/forum/classic_images/smilies/wink.gif)
The oil stretches the bladder to allow the piston to move up .
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Correct, the piston never does touch the bladder, but when the piston moves up into the body ?
The oil it displaces pushes against the bladder & that is where the extra pack comes from...
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The oil stretches the bladder to allow the piston to move up .
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I already ditched my booties , less striction with out...
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Sorry to correct you ..
The reason bladders have more pack is not due how much air gets mix with the oil ..![Wink](https://www.rctech.net/forum/classic_images/smilies/wink.gif)
When the piston push's up against the bladder that makes more pack .
The piston must stretch the bladder a little to be able to move up inside the shock body....
Remove the bladder and the piston does not have to fight to go up and thus more traction & less pack...
The rebound for the shock can be set the same for both , thus no difference in performance between the two in regards to rebound...
The reason bladders have more pack is not due how much air gets mix with the oil ..
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When the piston push's up against the bladder that makes more pack .
The piston must stretch the bladder a little to be able to move up inside the shock body....
Remove the bladder and the piston does not have to fight to go up and thus more traction & less pack...
The rebound for the shock can be set the same for both , thus no difference in performance between the two in regards to rebound...
It is also FACT that as the gas increases in an emulsion, that the viscosity decreases. Simple fluid dynamics.
I have yet to see an emulsion shock be built with significant rebound. In order to do so, there needs to be too much air emulsified into the oil for the shock to function correctly. What I do see is hydrolocking when trying to get decent amounts of rebound. Again, IMO, no reason to ever do an emulsion build when there's a choice...it's a step backwards in technology and tunability.
For someone with as many posts as yours, I'd have thought you would have learned a little more about how suspension works by now
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Again, you are wrong. The shaft displaces the oil, and the oil displaces the air bubble. It doesn't matter if the air bubble is behind the bladder or thousands of tiny little bubbles mixed up in the oil. The shaft volume is constant, and the amount of air that has to be compressed is constant. Air is compressible, fluids are not. The piston and the bladder do not interact in any way except as a barrier against mixing. This is all simple hydraulics 101.
I have yet to see an emulsion shock be built with significant rebound. In order to do so, there needs to be too much air emulsified into the oil for the shock to function correctly. What I do see is hydrolocking when trying to get decent amounts of rebound. Again, IMO, no reason to ever do an emulsion build when there's a choice...it's a step backwards in technology and tunability.
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I have yet to see an emulsion shock be built with significant rebound. In order to do so, there needs to be too much air emulsified into the oil for the shock to function correctly. What I do see is hydrolocking when trying to get decent amounts of rebound. Again, IMO, no reason to ever do an emulsion build when there's a choice...it's a step backwards in technology and tunability.
For someone with as many posts as yours, I'd have thought you would have learned a little more about how suspension works by now
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Emulsion or bladder, neither is better than the other unlike what you claim , its just another tuning option guy ..
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An emulsion shock changes throughout the course of a race as the air bubbles become finer and finer...if thats something you want, by all means, go for it
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Sorry , think it is a important tuning option and useful for many.