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Old 12-05-2012, 09:34 AM
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Default Setup's 2012 Kinwald & 2012 Maifeld

Curious if any one has ran both the 2012 Kinwald and 2012 Maifeld setups and which they preferred for indoor med size track? Im thinking about trying the Kinwald and wanted to see what others think of it. Kinwalds setup just seems a little strange to me, but then again im new so what would i know.
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Originally Posted by blusporttrac
Do any of you guys run the Tekin 4600 and what gearing is working for you? Last night i ran it for the first time with 13/62 qualifying temps came in at 140-150 but my race temps came in at 170-180 give or take. With default setting on the RX8.

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Drop your current limiter to 75-80%.

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Strange how?
Well im closer to mayfieds setup with about half the weight up front and non in the rear. Sorry, well strange to me and again im new, but reversed roll bar setup soft in front stiff rear. flipped mod b4 hubs and 7mm ballstud in the rear\realy tall camber links, rear flatter shock angle. long wheel base. I feel quick with the mayfields setup averaging in the 3-5 spots out of 9-13 guys. But wondering am i missing something by not try it.
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Originally Posted by blusporttrac
Curious if any one has ran both the 2012 Kinwald and 2012 Maifeld setups and which they preferred for indoor med size track? Im thinking about trying the Kinwald and wanted to see what others think of it. Kinwalds setup just seems a little strange to me, but then again im new so what would i know.
The team set-up are great for racers to have a good starting point to begin racing with .

Start with one you like best & and then make adjustments ....
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Originally Posted by blusporttrac
Do any of you guys run the Tekin 4600 and what gearing is working for you? Last night i ran it for the first time with 13/62 qualifying temps came in at 140-150 but my race temps came in at 170-180 give or take. With default setting on the RX8.

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Default on the RX8 has timing. Go into the setup and change to min (no timing).
4 poles hate timing.

As said, reducing the initial current allowed to flow will bring temps down as well. Play with 100% to 70%... but timing at zero 1st and foremost.
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Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta
Drop your current limiter to 75-80%.

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Is it better to drop my current limiter with my 13/62 or should i be changing my gearing.
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Just want to say thanks to everyone. This is a great place to find info and tons of good perspectives.
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Originally Posted by blusporttrac
Is it better to drop my current limiter with my 13/62 or should i be changing my gearing.
Geraing sounds correct for your size track

Change timing to zero and you're probably fine with current @ 100.

Also, most manufacturers will say 160 Max, tekin says 180 Max. Still shoot for 160, but 180 shouldn't do damage as long as its hitting that at the end of the run.
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You can try playing with the gearing, but that'll only get you so far. When I ran the 4600, I was running 11-13T depending on the track. It will run hot, but the current limiter helps, as does running 0 timing, and even a fan on the motor.
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Originally Posted by blusporttrac
Just want to say thanks to everyone. This is a great place to find info and tons of good perspectives.
Just a different opinion , don't adjust the current limiter .

instead use the Radio's EPA and adjust it down from 100% to 90 %....
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Just a different opinion , don't adjust the current limiter .

instead use the Radio's EPA and adjust it down from 100% to 90 %....

You are limiting the entire curve that way though. Current limit just limits the initial few thousand rpms and then its 100%.
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Originally Posted by fq06
You are limiting the entire curve that way though. Current limit just limits the initial few thousand rpms and then its 100%.
the limiter affects the curve as well , just that the effect is less with EPA & even less if reduced 8%, ect ....

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Building a Sc104x4 for a customize of Scott's ...

Had that big Tekin in it and was gona have da grind to make it fit with saddle's packs..
Told the guy get me a Lrp Flow instead ....
he did just that , Kool ESC Bro ! I said ...

Still keeping ^ using the Tekin 4 pole he purchased ...
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
the limiter affects the curve as well , just that the effect is less with EPA & even less if reduced 8%, ect ....
The current limiter is not a curve, there's no expo to it. It limits the amount of current to the percentage you dictate in hotwire and once it reaches a top secret undisclosed rpm, the limiting is disabled and you have full power. Intention is once you get up to speed and do not risk tire spin as much as from a stop or in a slow turn, the current limit is gone and you now have all available power without a limit.

Any EPA limitation is limiting the power sent to the motor in a linear way throughout the entire rpm range.

Current limit and EPA changes are not the same... just to make it clear for those with a RX8 that are wondering about this setting.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
the limiter affects the curve as well , just that the effect is less with EPA & even less if reduced 8%, ect ....

BTW
Building a Sc104x4 for a customize of Scott's ...

Had that big Tekin in it and was gona have da grind to make it fit with saddle's packs..
Told the guy get me a Lrp Flow instead ....
he did just that , Kool ESC Bro ! I said ...

Still keeping ^ using the Tekin 4 pole he purchased ...
Originally Posted by fq06
The current limiter is not a curve, there's no expo to it. It limits the amount of current to the percentage you dictate in hotwire and once it reaches a top secret undisclosed rpm, the limiting is disabled and you have full power. Intention is once you get up to speed and do not risk tire spin as much as from a stop or in a slow turn, the current limit is gone and you now have all available power without a limit.

Any EPA limitation is limiting the power sent to the motor in a linear way throughout the entire rpm range.

Current limit and EPA changes are not the same... just to make it clear for those with a RX8 that are wondering about this setting.

Here's a bit I wrote (and Tekin confirmed as true in another thread) about the current limiter funciton:
http://kriostasis.com/news/?p=23
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