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Old 08-14-2012, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RossNZ
I'd like to know what guys trucks weigh please, RTR.

stock form, 2866g. (stick pack front position, esc put to the front)
left/right weight distribution: 50/50
front/rear weight distribution: 45/55

to make it 50/50 front/rear. you will need 10% of the truck's weight,
that's 287g at the front wheel axle, not very possible.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:06 AM
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Slipper or Ball diff isnt gonna fix a bad suspension setup. Just sayin. Thats why they allow you to change things on it to make it work for you. Lets get back to setups that work
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Originally Posted by nicholasxuu
stock form, 2866g. (stick pack front position, esc put to the front)
left/right weight distribution: 50/50
front/rear weight distribution: 45/55

to make it 50/50 front/rear. you will need 10% of the truck's weight,
that's 287g at the front wheel axle, not very possible.
So much for the lightweight deal..My Losi weighs less..
My SC-10 is at 6.14 pounds and I thought mine was heavy..guess not, but I don't think the weight hurts it as far as performance goes..with as much power as we run the "extra" weight seems to help calm it down..
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scr8pn4205
Slipper or Ball diff isnt gonna fix a bad suspension setup. Just sayin. Thats why they allow you to change things on it to make it work for you. Lets get back to setups that work
But the diff fluids & slipper/center diff do affect the overall handling of your Truck, for the most the suspension set ups are pretty simple..let some else drive your SC and watch how it works (it does help to let someone who can wheel drive it)..after a while you can get it pretty spot on..I'm still workin on the diff/slipper set ups..but I'm gettin pretty close..
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Oasis
But the diff fluids & slipper/center diff do affect the overall handling of your Truck, for the most the suspension set ups are pretty simple..let some else drive your SC and watch how it works (it does help to let someone who can wheel drive it)..after a while you can get it pretty spot on..I'm still workin on the diff/slipper set ups..but I'm gettin pretty close..
I can wheel and dont need to have someone else drive my truck. The diff front and rear I understand also.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by big_ads
It isn't so much a jump in the traditional sense of the word. Its more like a pit three feet deep in the track with a little bit of a lip on the leading edge to get some air. Probably 2 and a half to three feet wide.

It is on the big sweeper of the track in between the tabletop and a banked corner leading onto a 150 ft back straight. Its essentially in the middle of a 3/4 oval all the way around the outside edge of the track so you hit it about as fast as your truck will go.

The day the Cain and I are talking about had 20 mph gusts that came at an angle across that part of the track from the outside of the lane to the inside...and we were jumping right into it. My MBX-6 Eco was affected by the wind that day...just a tough one for shortcourse all around.
Got the setup sheet, big thanks!

Yeah, there were some killer gusts for sure, but fun as always LOL. Just happy we made it out of the main without the monsoon hitting us like it did 1/8 scale.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scr8pn4205
I can wheel and dont need to have someone else drive my truck. The diff front and rear I understand also.
I used to believe that lie before I got a Gopro.

If you take the time to actually watch the video, it's amazing how much you can learn.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:52 AM
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Practice analyze this truck :
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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


My truck isn't setup like that now and I know what I changed to make it good so lets see if your right (Not you craig, anybody who wants too.)
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by scr8pn4205
Slipper or Ball diff isnt gonna fix a bad suspension setup. Just sayin. Thats why they allow you to change things on it to make it work for you. Lets get back to setups that work
Tires 40%
Set-up 10%
Driver 50%



This is how it I look at it ...
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:18 AM
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Over driving the lines, too much trigger finger
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by scr8pn4205
Over driving the lines, too much trigger finger
Well we all already knew I can't drive lol
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Originally Posted by scr8pn4205
I can wheel and dont need to have someone else drive my truck. The diff front and rear I understand also.
Never implyed you or anyone else couldn't drive..you missed the point, it's all about watching your truck not about driving it..it's hard to really watch how the suspension is working and concentrate on driving..you guys should chill a bit..didn't say or imply anyone couldn't drive, just said that you want someone who can wheel drive your truck..can't learn much if your buddy is crashing or overdriving..right..try it you might be suprised..
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Originally Posted by scr8pn4205
I can wheel and dont need to have someone else drive my truck. The diff front and rear I understand also.
Since you know everything why even bother with us..why go back to set up stuff..you should be telling us set ups..
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Originally Posted by Oasis
So much for the lightweight deal..My Losi weighs less..
My SC-10 is at 6.14 pounds and I thought mine was heavy..guess not, but I don't think the weight hurts it as far as performance goes..with as much power as we run the "extra" weight seems to help calm it down..
Yes, I've seen a lot of light losi on my local track. Especially we are mostly racing on small indoor track this summer, and the A main here is pretty much a losi fest.

However, with the 550 motors on 4wd short course trucks these days, weight is not a very important issue.
somehow I am using exotek locked front clutch with a very loose clutch setting (work as a loose center diff but less efficient), and it's still pushing quite a bit.

I believe the main issue with this truck is the front/rear weight distribution, for 4wd off road, heavier front helps a lot.
Perhaps lighter rear makes the rear less likely to slide around out of control, thus you can push the throttle hard much earlier.

*Tried a friend's losi last weekend, so relaxing to drive. Just push the throttle hard out of the corner and the truck goes.
SC10 4x4 is quite like a 2wd buggy, you need to make sure the rear is tamed and the truck is pointed to the right direction, then you can start pushing harder. Pushed a bit too early, or the corner exit direction went a bit wrong, you may phrase the god and your correction went smooth and just right.

The thing losi guys are worrying about is the hard braking after a long straight, the tail is too light that it will lift off the ground and come out easily.
My SC10 however, with 8mm mod and locked front clutch, is now very stable, if not too stable, under the braking. (can't kick the tail out in some low speed hairpins)
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Oasis
Since you know everything why even bother with us..why go back to set up stuff..you should be telling us set ups..
LOL Its a secret. Just kidding wow. I was just sick of the "this center diff will make me an Amain diver compared to this center diff" is all I am sayin
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