RCW

iTrader: (29)

You don't need them on the hub, you need them for the shock tower. Almost everyone is putting 7mm under the ballstud on inside camber link mount when installing the CF hubs.

ilanstylz

iTrader: (142)

Yes I understand that, but from the way the question was asked and answered it seemed like he was saying you use the 12mm ballstud with the cf hub mod. Maybe I read it wrong but I do know the reason why you do it on the inside rear tower since I am one of the first ones to do so , thanks guys I guess I just misread it...........

Wildcat1971

iTrader: (84)

yeah, I didnt realize I needed the 12mm ball studs for the 8mm mod....and I already placed my order for parts, woot

IRM616

iTrader: (29)

If ur adding 7 or 8 mm of spacers you need about 3 to 4 mm to hold it.

Wildcat1971

iTrader: (84)

That is fine, I am just getting really frustrated with this team edition 4x4. It came lacking in so many areas, I find myself constantly ordering parts. I ordered the C hubs and now I find out once my parts come in, I cant set it up properly. Meh. lol, I just want the truck to drive in a straight line and its costing me so much to fix all the issues.

t0p_sh0tta

iTrader: (35)

Mine drives just fine in a straight line, and the 8mm mod isn't mandatory. It all depends on your ability.

The stock setup I've been using has been decent, but I moded the hubs anyway to try something new. Figure out what works for me. There's one "cookie-cutter" setup that works for everybody, or everywhere for that matter.

SMR 510RR

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Diameter is one of the paramaters used to determine the rate of the spring...If you permanently change diameter you change the rate of the spring.

They dont go on the hub, there are 2 parts to the 8mm mod. Part 1 is installing the carbon hub, part 2 is raising the inner ballstud 7mm to compensate for the increased height at the hub. In order to raise the inside by that much you need the extra length the 12mm stud offers.

I hope that clears everything up.

Wildcat1971

iTrader: (84)

lol, my truck drives far from straight. lol, it needs constant correction, because of the sensitivity issues in the steering.

samuelsonmark71

iTrader: (22)

So add weight in the front near the servo?

Wildcat1971

iTrader: (84)

how well do the 12mm HD stud hold up with 7mm under them? do they bent alot? Should I order a gaggle of them? I might be able to cancel and fix my order if I do it soon. Once it packed, I am SOL, lol.

samuelsonmark71

iTrader: (22)

Also, you can add a few shims to the ball stud that you have to raise it some for the 8mm mod. It doesnt HAVE to be 7 or 8, could be 5 with the stock stud

Wildcat1971

iTrader: (84)

I am currently running 5mm with the stock hubs. if I raise the outside 8mm and dont raise the inside, what will the net effect be?

Krio

iTrader: (159)

You are changing the diameter and pitch proportionately. All that really matters is the wire length, or how many free coils there are. I said "technically" because you are slightly cold hardening the spring, but since these springs are cold rolled and coiled, it really doesn't matter. The spring rate doesn't change.

Wildcat1971

iTrader: (84)

Dang, you is smart, lol. All I read was ^&%^& 76^&%^& *^%&)_

Krio

iTrader: (159)

I typed that as I sit here running Finite Element Analysis (FEAs) for a Mitsubishi rear coil for one of their 2014 cars and doing a drawing check on another set of full size springs.