I used to race 1/10th pan cars in the Modified class until I had to give up racing back in '92. I'm finally back after all these years, only to find that the TC classes pretty much dominate everything else.
I can see the attraction to the touring cars, especially given the variety of bodies available for them, but what really killed the pan car class? I've heard in some circles that it was because of the motor and battery wars, but PLEASE! If that was the case, Oval would have been dead long ago!
Originally posted by TurnNBurn I used to race 1/10th pan cars in the Modified class until I had to give up racing back in '92. I'm finally back after all these years, only to find that the TC classes pretty much dominate everything else.
I can see the attraction to the touring cars, especially given the variety of bodies available for them, but what really killed the pan car class? I've heard in some circles that it was because of the motor and battery wars, but PLEASE! If that was the case, Oval would have been dead long ago!
Your right that oval and even TC would be dead with the motor and battery wars.
We have been seem 10th and more in 1/12th pan car are making a small come back.
What we need to do is ever one with a 10th and 12th bring them out. Dust them off and get some lap on the track to show off the cars.
If ever one who still have them dose it. You see more people picking up the cars. I seen a lot of people when we race the cars say what is it. Or better yet when they out there with Mod TC and you betting them with 10th with a stock motor they seam to be very interested in the cars.
We just have to show how much fun the can be. That why you see the class grow again.
It would help if the variety of bodies were still available! Two of my favorite "classic" bodies are no longer produced... First, there was the Legendary Bolink Porshe 962. Next came the Protoform Nissan P35. Luckily, I still have one of each untrimmed and unpainted, but once they're gone, they're gone.
I would guess that my only choice left would be either Andy's (haven't seen Andy's list of available bodies lately), or Hot Bodies. I think the only 1/10th pan body still made by Protoform is the Peugeot 905. I ran that body a long time ago when I was sponsored by Protoform (in the pre Pro-line days). It wasn't bad, but the Nissan was much better.
Two Associated bodies that were decent were the Chevy Intrepid, and the Jaguar XJ-10, although I don't think those are made anymore.
Protoform still makes the P35. It's the one most of us use at SoCal. Proline/Protoform's website sucks.
The key to bringing Pan Car back is to simply get out and run it. Two years ago, when myself and a couple other guys started running them again at SoCal Raceway, we struggled along with 4-6 entries. But, people saw us running them, realized that they are faster than Sedan and cheaper. We're nowhere near as big as Sedan, but in the last 30 weeks, we've have fewer than 12 entries just three times and we're still growing.
Ivan - Go to: http://www.rc10.com/racerhub/techhelp/tech10l.htm . Your exact answer's probably somewhere on that page. I think you'd have to at least buy or drill the lower cross-brace on the rear to use the L2 roadcourse chassis and making it into an oval car would involve a whole new rear (narrow) pod.
Ivan: According to AE, no it won't. The whole rear pod and chassis brace assembly is different. You basically have to change everything but the front suspension and the motor plate.
For the cost, you could just buy an RC10L2 and convert it to an L3.
The reason it wont work is because the rear pod of the 10Ls is wider than an oval car. The axle and diff hub are much longer when compared side by side w/ that of an oval car
Anyone still thinking about going to run the NORRCA Nationals in Vegas in a week and a half should know that the entry deadline of 09/14 has been lifted as of 9/12. They will now take entries up to Thursday night at the track.
Taz – Did anyone from NorCal enter that you know of? They only had 8 entries for the class as of a little while ago, and counting myself, I know that seven of those are us SoCal guys.
The reason it wont work is because the rear pod of the 10LS is wider than an oval car. The axle and diff hub are much longer when compared side by side w/ that of an oval car
Actually, AE has a list of parts needed to convert an RC10L2 to use the 3-shock setup. I guess it uses some parts from the RC10L3 Touring. I'm thinking that the 10L3-T uses the same width rear pod as a 10L2, but a different axle to keep the width down to 190mm. If that's the case, then you could use the standard 10L axle to get the standard width.
Originally posted by MarkA Taz – Did anyone from NorCal enter that you know of? They only had 8 entries for the class as of a little while ago, and counting myself, I know that seven of those are us SoCal guys.
I think there 3 of the Nor cal guys going to the Nat's.
Actually, AE has a list of parts needed to convert an RC10L2 to use the 3-shock setup. I guess it uses some parts from the RC10L3 Touring. I'm thinking that the 10L3-T uses the same width rear pod as a 10L2, but a different axle to keep the width down to 190mm. If that's the case, then you could use the standard 10L axle to get the standard width.
What they do with the 10L3T is the use a 12L3O Rear pod with the 10L3O rear axle with diffent hups to get it down to the 190mm.. You can use 10L3O part to make the 10L2O with a 3-shock setup.
I do not know if you can make a 10LS or a 10LSS in to a 10L2 or 10L2O.
I do not know if you can make a 10LS or a 10LSS in to a 10L2 or 10L2O.
No, you can't. Associated has pointed this out in their RC10L Tech section. For the price of all the parts you'd need, you could buy a whole new RC10L2 kit.